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Sarrow · Nov 26, 2005, 11:38 PM // 23:38

These 3 items are discontinued since the update I believe. As you can see these items have crazy stats and +5 energy, very usefull for classes that dont attack often [*ehem*monk]
Is there a prediction that these may raise in price, or begin to raise in price as most people didn't know that such things existed. Your Thoughts here.

Nawn Centz · Nov 26, 2005, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Maybe you should sell them for 26k.
=)

I dunno if they would be the next HoD sword, maybe so. Do you have those? :P

Eonwe · Nov 26, 2005, 11:43 PM // 23:43

They're not discontinued... I just went and checked. *shrugs*

Sarrow · Nov 26, 2005, 11:46 PM // 23:46

Yea, one of them. the +20% is the one that you can get. but the 2 - 10% and miss is the discontinued.

DvM · Nov 26, 2005, 11:49 PM // 23:49

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Originally Posted by Sarrow

Yea, one of them. the +20% is the one that you can get. but the 2 - 10% and miss is the discontinued.

you can get all three, he has diffrent ones everytime you get into the zone

Eonwe · Nov 26, 2005, 11:49 PM // 23:49

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Originally Posted by dvm

you can get all three, he has diffrent ones everytime you get into the zone

word

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Loviatar · Nov 27, 2005, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by DvM

you can get all three, he has diffrent ones everytime you get into the zone

confirmed.

i picked up a few of each

EDIT

i thought everybody went past that collector

Ollj · Nov 27, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51

i wont use a crappy wand just for +5 energy.

Fyre Brand · Nov 27, 2005, 12:52 AM // 00:52

The only mod on any of those types that matters is the +5 energy. Since you wouldn't be attacking directly while holding the wand and doing any appreciable damage none of the rest even matter. They are all essentially the same.

The only one that might be different is the "can miss 10%" wand. If that causes direct damage targeted spells to miss as well as the weapon then that wand would really suck. I doubt it works that way though.

These wands aren't even comparable to the Denravi sword. What makes that sword so cool is that you get the +5 energy and you can add mods to it as well. A health mod or +% enchant mod (I think there are sword pommels or hilts that add +% to enchant) would make the sword very powerful. You cant mod wands, and I believe that is why they took the sword out and left the wand in.

Pharalon · Nov 27, 2005, 01:21 AM // 01:21

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Originally Posted by Ollj

i wont use a crappy wand just for +5 energy.

The +5en is largely irrelevant. You want it because it's the fastest firing ranged weapon in the game, making it excellent at generating adrenaline when you're facing heavy anti-melee skills (multiple wards, excessive kiting etc etc). Instead of running around actuakly landing a melee hit once every 4 seconds, you can almost always find a target in range with no evades to hit once every 1.5 seconds. It's a niche use, but when you face a wall of WaF and WaM, you thank god you've got one in your 4th slot.

lyra_song · Nov 27, 2005, 01:26 AM // 01:26

the reason the HoD sword was so good was the +5 plus sword mod bonuses you could add on top of it.

You cant mod a wand...

Maxiemonster · Nov 27, 2005, 01:26 AM // 01:26

HoD > Wand

If you really want the +5 Energy, you should get the HoD sword anyway. You can get either +30 Health, or +20% Enchantments, which is really great, especially compared to these useless mods. Though, this is a great item for starting players (especially Monks) that get past this collector. And if you don't have the 200K (probably 500K very soon) the HoD is worth, this is a nice alternative.

And by the way: Energy is far important, people should be minding there Energy management, especially Healing Monks. I'm fine with my 32 base Energy on my monk, I'm actually one of the fewer Healing Monks without Energy problems.

Hot Dead · Nov 27, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Pharalon

The +5en is largely irrelevant. You want it because it's the fastest firing ranged weapon in the game, making it excellent at generating adrenaline when you're facing heavy anti-melee skills (multiple wards, excessive kiting etc etc). Instead of running around actuakly landing a melee hit once every 4 seconds, you can almost always find a target in range with no evades to hit once every 1.5 seconds. It's a niche use, but when you face a wall of WaF and WaM, you thank god you've got one in your 4th slot.

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Agreed

Quick question though about these wands, which collector has them?where?

Maxiemonster · Nov 27, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32

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Originally Posted by Pharalon

The +5en is largely irrelevant. You want it because it's the fastest firing ranged weapon in the game, making it excellent at generating adrenaline when you're facing heavy anti-melee skills (multiple wards, excessive kiting etc etc). Instead of running around actuakly landing a melee hit once every 4 seconds, you can almost always find a target in range with no evades to hit once every 1.5 seconds. It's a niche use, but when you face a wall of WaF and WaM, you thank god you've got one in your 4th slot.

Very good point, thinking about this makes me want a couple of these stored too. Any chance of telling me where to get these little guys?

twicky_kid · Nov 27, 2005, 01:42 AM // 01:42

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Originally Posted by Pharalon

The +5en is largely irrelevant. You want it because it's the fastest firing ranged weapon in the game, making it excellent at generating adrenaline when you're facing heavy anti-melee skills (multiple wards, excessive kiting etc etc). Instead of running around actuakly landing a melee hit once every 4 seconds, you can almost always find a target in range with no evades to hit once every 1.5 seconds. It's a niche use, but when you face a wall of WaF and WaM, you thank god you've got one in your 4th slot.

since IAS is capped at 133% that is irrelevant as well......

Racthoh · Nov 27, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43

The collector is outside of Nolani. 3 charr carvings are required.

Best bet is to start the Nolani mission, open the front door and slaughter the charr that come in.

Maxiemonster · Nov 27, 2005, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Thanks Racthoh! I'm on my way!

Tactical-Dillusions · Nov 27, 2005, 01:50 AM // 01:50

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

The collector is outside of Nolani. 3 charr carvings are required.

Best bet is to start the Nolani mission, open the front door and slaughter the charr that come in.

Beat me to it.

Pharalon · Nov 27, 2005, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

since IAS is capped at 133% that is irrelevant as well......

1)Not every Warrior runs a IAS stance these days. The new skill monitor and spike meta moved Frenzy from a must have to something you take if it fits the build. The other options were always only for niche roles.

2)Why waste energy when you can get almost the same effect for free?

twicky_kid · Nov 27, 2005, 02:05 AM // 02:05

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Originally Posted by Pharalon

1)Not every Warrior runs a IAS stance these days. The new skill monitor and spike meta moved Frenzy from a must have to something you take if it fits the build. The other options were always only for niche roles.

2)Why waste energy when you can get almost the same effect for free?

10% IAS is = to 1.197 seconds per attack. you knocked a whole millisecond off your attack. after 10 attacks you got 1 extra attack. that does just about nothing.

what this does though is give the war and ranger runners that cannot afford the hod sword a cheap alternative. less cost on equipment better profitablity.